
This article from The Verge talks about how disastrous it would be if developers are forced to ask content creators’ permission to use their Intellectual Property – eg. their WORK – to train generative algorithms. https://www.theverge.com/news/674366/nick-clegg-uk-ai-artists-policy-letter
If paying for the right to use legally protected content is a step too far, then surely to goodness simply *asking to use it, in perpetuity, with no recompense, and likely with no attribution*, is a reasonable compromise.
“How would you even do that”, Clegg asks. How indeed, Mr. Clegg. I’d start with, you know, tracking down all the people whose content you have stolen, which is primarily dead white dudes but also some living white dudes. And some white ladies. And a smattering of people of colour. (Insert rant about inherent bias in all Large Language and Large Data Models (LLMs and LDMs) here). Tracking down all of these people shouldn’t be that difficult for the tech industry who mysteriously knows how to send you targeted advertisements based solely on which aisle you were standing in when your phone pinged a tower somewhere. Or who designed a fridge which knows whether or not you need more apples. Or who designed doorbell cameras that can capture the unique structure of human faces from 8m away, then send that data *somewhere* where it’s archived and incorporated into an algorithm which can be used to identify individual sperm in someone riding the subway in Turkmenistan.
Also, it’s your *job* to figure it the fuck out, bud.
Techbros whingeing about how EXPENSIVE it would be and how DIFFICULT it would be to NOT BREAK THE LAW exemplify everything that sucks about techbros. These fuckwads are the dingleberries on the festering anus of capitalism. If legally sourcing privately owned property will decimate your business, or worse, your entire INDUSTRY, that’s called a cartel. You might not think it’s a big deal to use copyright-protected material to train large data, but let me tell you why it is a big deal.
First, the stuff you might not care about:
If the inputs your business requires in order to *survive* (never mind thrive) do not belong to you – in other words, if the inputs your business needs to survive are stolen – your business is not legitimate.
IDEAS are free. The expressions of those ideas, Percy Schmeiser, are not. And they are not free for a reason.
Intellectual Property laws like Copyright do not exist to prevent ideas from spreading – quite the opposite – they exist to ensure ideas will keep spreading. How? By ensuring the people who have expressed those ideas have the ability to make a living through the expression of their ideas. Not for HAVING ideas (don’t let the tech industry spit out their silly rhetoric that copyright laws hinder progress), but for the ways in which those ideas are expressed and applied. After all, nobody will ever use the hover pants you don’t make.
So here we have an entire industry based entirely on, essentially, colonialist capitalism. If you cannot make a profit without exploiting the people least able to defend themselves against your theft of their livelihood, it’s not just unethical, it’s unsustainable. Eventually you’ll run out of people and you’ll have to start paying your friends to have ideas, and then they’ll get pissed off when you don’t pay them either, and then everything’s in the shitter.
So, Mr. Clegg, if the “AI industry” (again, not actual intelligence, just algorithms) cannot survive without using stolen inputs, GOOD. It’s not supposed to. It’s actually your fucking job to figure out how to acquire proper permissions to use someone else’s property. It’s not our job to figure out how to help you steal from us, you knob.
This doesn’t just affect writers. Here’s a brief, and non-exhaustive list of the kinds of content creators Mr. Nick Clegg would like to see impoverished and unable to continue to work:
writers, editors, coders, scientists, musicians, designers, architects, filmmakers, actors, compositors, animators, game designers, clothing manufacturers, sculptors, doctors, inventors, lawyers, dancers, illustrators, photographers, drafters, builders, literally everybody working in R&D, policy analysts & makers, insurance underwriters, PR firms, advertisers, advertising agencies, news franchises, media franchises, television, radio, politicians, teachers, nurses…like…it’s just fucking everything. I have NEVER understood folks from the arts sector who get super excited about the idea that a computer algorithm can very easily make them obsolete.
What Mr. Clegg doesn’t seem to understand is that there are many, many, ma-hany ways for the “AI and creative sectors” to prosper. MANY. And they’re all predicated on things like respecting and following the law, and working out mutually beneficial agreements which ensure the sustainability of these industries. Telling the people who literally make the stuff that makes the stuff you do even possible that they don’t matter and should stop bitching about having their income stolen is not the way.
If asking permission to use private property will destroy your industry, your industry is a cartel.
i make squee noises when you tell me stuff.